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    Discussion in 'All in One' started by wulf, Aug 22, 2014.

    1. zeldrak

      zeldrak Well-Known Member

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      I just tested your settings in an LFR. My masked armory is http://www.maskedarmory.com/anonymous-wow-armory-profile-270305.html so you can check out my gear (enchants, gems, reforges, etc). I'm currently sitting at 8952 spirit (~10k combat regen). I was rarely ever below 275k mana and I came in 5th out of six healers. The top two healers were a 540 ilvl resto shaman that came in second, and a 570 ilvl disc priest that came in first by a very high margin. I'm going to switch back to the LFR settings by mnipper and see how well those go with my current spirit.

      The only reason I'm not tampering with yours is because I honestly don't know the paladin healing class, so I wouldn't know how, or what, to change to make it use more mana on healing. I thing these would be great for lower ilvl holy paladins though. Seems to use barely any mana at all.
       
    2. wulf

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      You would have been low because of the sniped heals by the higher level guys, let me know how mnippers goes.
       
    3. zeldrak

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      I've decided to completely rewrite this post after speaking with BennyQuest for a few minutes this morning (8 Sept, 2014). I knew at one point disc priests had two styles of healing, but I found out that that was basically "pre MoP". Now, however, it seems that disc priests are DPS healers, so atonement is the only way they heal. My apologies if I sound ignorant or naive right now, but I don't know the game fully since I've come to rely on HB to play my game for me (with the exception of targeting, movement, and facing). I just depend on routines with predefined settings because I don't know the class well enough to toy with the settings on my own. That's my own personal downfall.

      If you guys working on Oracle II could find a way to come up with a batch of "lowbie geared" LFR friendly options for Disc healing that would be great. I'm sure I'll also be asking you guys for options regarding a resto shaman and druid at some point as well since I haven't the slightest clue as to which healer I want to "main" yet. I can say that my shaman is in SoO however, and my druid is not far behind her doing regular runs through ToT.
       
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    4. biGGer

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      Please fix rebuffing priests PW:Fortitude after warlock buffs it with his spell(109773). Every time a warlock casts it, the routine rebuffs Stamina, this makes it so obvious that the guy is using your routine.
       
    5. shelaine

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      Hi,

      I'm using Oracle Premium on a disc priest, and I have 2 things/questions:

      - the routine seems to attack whichever target it wants, but I want it to attack my current target! Setting "Nuke Current Target = True" doesn't seem to help.

      - routine is casting Hymn of Hope hardly in fight (even if I'm out of mana), but most of the time casts it AFTER the boss is down, so that's kinda... weird. (set to 15%)

      I'm using the routine with Tyrael.

      Can anyone help me on those issues?
       
    6. bennyquest

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      Turn the buffing off then in the class settings.

      All's well that Heals well,
      Bennyquest
       
    7. bennyquest

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      Disc priest has a "snipe" feature in it to maximize uptime of Twist of Fate. That is one reason why it changes targets, also it usually tried to just target the "tanks" target. Hymn of Hope should be cast when your mana is below the setting. Of course it will cast it out of combat and your mana is low if Tyrael continous healing mode is set to true.

      All's well that Heals well,
      Bennyquest
       
    8. biGGer

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      Then people bug me because i forgot to buff stamina.
      Can't you add Dark Intent into the same place that checks if people have PW:F on them ?
       
    9. bennyquest

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      We can was, just adding in a quick fix for you.

      All's well that Heals well,
      Bennyquest
       
    10. lckwjl

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      With continuous healing on in tyrael:
      Prayer of mending on cooldown turned off still casts on cd. Also set to 99% hp
      Renew on cooldown when set to 95% hp on tanks, still casts on me.
      Penace on cooldown no idea why
       
    11. Nat

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      Sup guys!

      I bought Oracle2 today and was testing on LFR. I'm 14/14 25man-HEROIC Holy Paladin with 588 ilvl. I'm using Selfless Healer and almost 25k (70%) of mastery. I was using Tuanha's CR until now and was being successful with him.

      The rotation is quite simple. With this level of gear and Selfless Healer talent, I don't need worry about mana, so I setup the Tuanha's CR to spam HR, HS, Jud and LoD. The Tuanha's CR is always building up Holy Power as fast as possible and using LoD to cover the raid with Mastery: Illuminated Healing, even with everybody full life.

      Playing this way, I managed to win of a Disc Priest (OP class with 588 ilvl and a skillful guy) on some fights, including Garrosh HC, that is a fight totally favorable to priest. But there is a problem with Tuanha's CR using framelock (hard lock Tyrael). It doesn't matter how strong is your pc, the fps will drop alot.

      So I decided to use Oracle2, that is fully supported with framelock and my fps stays between 50~60 on 25 man raid (10~15 with Tuanha's CR). I tried to setup the Oracle2 to execute the same rotation and I'm not getting. Oracle2 isn't casting HR on cd and it is not building up Holy power as fast as possible. I mean, Oracle2 isn't casting Jud, HR or HS on cd to build up Holy Power. I was doing a terrible HPS on Norushen.

      I tried to use "Default_Paladin_SelflessHealer_Class" from the paladin tester and the doesn't worked.

      I need some tips! Sorry for the english. Thank you guys!
       

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    12. bennyquest

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      get me a log of this please

      All's well that Heals well,
      Bennyquest
       
    13. mnipper

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      According to your log, you were in fact using Judgment and Holy Shock on CD. I believe the problem lies elsewhere, that you aren't generating enough holy power in your raid. Some things to try and see if it improves:

      - Raise the Holy Radiance threshold to suit your healing situation. Even something like 101 and 6 targets works very well and builds the shielding that you are probably wanting, to increase the healing.
      - Under the Class tab, Beacon section, set to "True" build HP with FL. This will move your beacon to build more Holy Power for you, by moving the beacon on the lowest health target while casting Flash of Light. The disadvantage is that it will move the Beacon off the tank, but as you are 14/14 H, your tanks will be fine without it for a few seconds. This does require you to raise Flash of Light to something high, like 80 and set to "True". You'll be surprised how much Holy Power is generated this way. You will need to change a few other settings, such as Selfless Healer HR cast at 3, and Beacon set to lowest health target.
      - Change Light of Dawn Spam to use at 3 Holy Power. Less throughput, but bigger shields, which are the majority of the healing you want to have at end game raiding.
      - You have Tyrael set to 30 TPS. Make sure you don't dip below that, or adjust slider back to 15 TPS.
      - Set Continuous Healing Mode on Tyrael to "Yes".

      As each healer's gear, healing core, and raid size vary, some adjustments might be needed until you find a good setting. I have settings ready for HPally using Selfless healer in 25 man heroic raid and has 560+ gear level, and have been getting good results with it from different players. It should be uploaded soon and might be better than the rest of your settings.

      Any other problems do not hesitate to ask, and thank you for attaching the log.

      mnipper
       
    14. Nat

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      Thanks alot for the Tips Mnipper!

      If possible, I want to build Holy Power without Flash Light, just using HR with 1 stack of Selfless Healer, HS and Judgment.

      I turned off all settings for Flash Light and CR still casting Flash Light. I setup HR to cast with 98 and 1 target, but Oracle2 isn't casting HR. What settings I must change to do this "rotation"?

      Thanks!
       
    15. mnipper

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      It looks like your Flash of Light is casting when people are low health, less than 50%, so I'm assuming it's an Emergency Heal setting. Try lowering Emergency Healing to maybe 30 to avoid those casts, but to be honest, it looks like they really needed a direct heal, and where this CR shines, is its flexibility. for HR to be cast in more of a rotation style. Set Holy Radiance SH Stacks to 1, and Holy Radiance set to 101 and 1 target. See if that helps.

      mnipper
       
    16. wulf

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      25 man Paladin Self less healer heroic settings for you to try.
       

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      Fixed next release.

      [Priest] Added "Dark Intent" to Power Word: Fortitude exclusions.
       
    18. wulf

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      The Targeting goes like this;-

      • Lowesthealth - for TwistOfFate
      • Focused unit
      • you Currenttarget
      • Totems
      • Tanks current target

      Nuke Current target was only for druid, and was a testing thing, ignore it.

      Fixed Hymn of hope next release, thanks for the bug report.
      [Priest] Added combat check to Hymn of Hope.
       
    19. wulf

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      PoM dose not cast on cooldown it casts if there are no stacks out, there is a difference.
      Renew is possibly because you are the tank, meaning O2 couldn't find a valid tank so it sets you as the tank.
       
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      Some improvements are going to roll in over the next week as well as bug fixs that have been reported by our ticketing system, so stay tuned.

      -- CURRENT TODO ---
      • [All] Improved FPS (yes even more frames for your viewing pleasure (you can never have enough))
      • [Shaman] Healing stream totem can be now used in two ways. For single target (has a Health Percent setting and an enable setting) or by adding it to the Dynamic spell priority and specifying an average healthpercent of the nearby players and a count of players to use it. (all new setting added.)
      • [Shaman] Addition of EarthShield on second tank. Setting renamed under class specific to "Earth Shield target"
      • [Shaman] Speed up Healing Rain casting on largest cluster
      • [Druid] Speed up Effo Mushroom on largest cluster
      • [Monk] Lightning weaving
       

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