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  • Sm0k3d's Endgame Healing CC v1.0

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    1. stiky

      stiky New Member

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      working amazing like usual!
       
    2. Zoinx

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      I just realized the CC also doesn't use GoAK. Is there anyway to also implement that into the rotation?
      HR is best to use in situations where you need the buffs that it gives:
      So having the CC use GoAK as an AoE Healing and since HR is haste dependent {anywhere from 10 ticks to 24 tricks depending on your haste} it would be better to pop HR after popping DF {Divine Favor} and Lifeblood {Herbalism Trait +480 Haste over 20 seconds}.

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      Edit1: At work, will be home in 3-4 hours to test the new raid build 1.4 of the CC. Not sure how HR was implemented, and I didn't really give a good reason or situations when it should be used. Not sure if you play a Holy Paladin in raids, but this is the best way to use it. As I told you, I just switched from a 12/13Heroic Ret raiding Paladin to a Holy Paladin. I am out geared by my guildmates, they are all ilvl 372, but I am almost topping them in the Healing charts. I am slowly learning all the mechanics to the class and will keep posting back with updates to make this CC use the best rotations and best spells in certain situations.

      Edit2: Also, how do you prioritize healing vs dispelling, and what do you do to determine what to dispel first? Was just wondering so I can see and theorycraft with guildmates on the best way to do this {Our main Holy Paladin is interested in HB just for this CC and is gonna probably purchase it this week. He will be a great help to fine tuning this CC}

      Edit3: Something else I would like to see that I feel you can implement straight into the CC {since you already have the 'Set Tank' option in the Bot Settings} is an option to say, only heal/dispel/monitor the selected players. Maybe give a check box next to everyone or highlight the names? Say, I am assigned to ONLY heal the MT or the OT, or say 3 specific melee for certain fights. I need a way to tell the bot, ignore everyone else ---no matter what--- and ONLY monitor the following targets.

      Edit4:Question, you updated the first post and said:
      Here is what it does:
      It does not add anything to +healing, or anything that benefits Holy Paladins, in fact, if used in the wrong way, could be negative. If you happen to use Holy Shock while Inquisition is up on an enemy, you just increased your threat by 30%. Only spell Holy Paladins currently have to use HP on is WoG. Better off keeping HP to use for WoG when its needed.

      Edit5: Something else I though of, would be, since Holy Shock costs next to nothing ---1873.8 mana--- it should do a check out of combat:
      Code:
      If Not in Combat:
         Does Holy Power = 3
            If Yes, recheck in 25 seconds if not in combat still
            If No, cast Holy Shock. -recheck Holy Power in 25 seconds
      That way, you will go into fights with 1-3 Holy Power instead of starting at 0. I choose checks at 25 seconds because HP expires, if not used, after 30 seconds. Could be made 28 or 29 seconds as well.
       
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    3. dudekde22

      dudekde22 New Member

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      1.45 raid version is almost perfect! Couple small things though, still doing that crazy mad spam if beacon person is out of range and it needs to re-apply beacon and 2nd, is there a way to make it so he doesn't try to cast/buff while mounted? Also i noticed with this version that he randomly targets the tank or whomever u have selected out of combat and it spams the message can't attack that target and it turns in the direction of that target. I've never seen that before and it seems to be totally random, happens once every few mins. Not sure how to even replicate this issue. Thnx for the great work !
       
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    4. sparks

      sparks Active Member

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      been away for the last 3 months.
      Mainly on my pally I tanked and had just started healing.

      Will my spec, it was on jerks back in January and glyphs still work or is there a new one now?

      I had just started healing heroics so my gear is not super but I am JC so I had the trinkets and stuff it could make.


      any recommendations on should I run IB with this? My exp back then with older healing CC was things like the Asaad at the end of Vortex and the pally would not dispel the static or move into the triangle Up to that point he was perfect. and I think that and one other was all he could run so my idea of tons of JP with IB at that time was trashed real quick.
       
    5. dudekde22

      dudekde22 New Member

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      I run in lazyraider, works perfect.
       
    6. Zoinx

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      I never use IB for cata instances because of how bad it is. There are a lot of mechanics, mainly at then end bosses, that IB can't handle because they don't have the behaviors for it yet.

      I run this CC and LazyRaider. I have to do all the running and mechanics, such as the run to the lightning triangle in Pinnacle Vortex, but this CC does all the healing, dispelling, etc.
       
    7. sm0k3d

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      yea like ive said many times before Holy radiance isnt implemented yet, i cant get it to count the players around me with low health correctly. gardian isnt implemented yet either because of the same thing. as far as healing/dispelling selected people, im not really sure how i could put this in. right now it looks for roles assigned and sees who the tank is and sets that as the tank. i could have it heal/dispell only people in your party and not the whole raid, maybe for something like BH.

      also i fixed the beacon thing again haha and that attacking thing you were talking about. im putting it up now. ill look into the mount issue when i get back from work tonight sorry
       
    8. sm0k3d

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      also i took out Inquisition, i thought that it helps out my healing when i did it but prolly not lol :p
       
    9. sparks

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      NICE
      Just ran this first time on a 333 avg pally.
      people said GREAT HEALING lol

      totally awesome
       
    10. sm0k3d

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      Haha yea thanks. I actually just ran my newest one for the first time in a few weeks and I was pulling 11k hps. I've been thinking about holy radiance and guardian and where this CC is going. Right now it's moving from a CC that u afk instance botting to a CC for lazy raider so you don't really do any work besides running around. If I can figure out holy radiance and guardian do u want me to put it in? Because in a lot of situations (like on chim in BWD for example) you need to save holy radiance and guardian for when you stack up to heal everyone.

      Basically what I'm trying to say is do u want me to put it in there or do u want me to keep it out so you can choose when you want to bring out your guardian or use holy radiance. If you guys want it I'll keep trying to get it so it works.

      Also I wouldn't use this CC on chim if your running BWD because all you need to do is keep everyone up above 10k hp.

      One more thing, can someone test this CC in ZG and see if I got the cleansing fixed? It should cleanse everything besides the good debuffs in there. Also let me know if it's cleansing regular debuffs as well because I heard that I broke the cleansing and it wasn't cleansing anything.

      Thanks and sorry for the wall o text :p
       
    11. quel

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      So far ive done every Heroic on my paladin including ZA/ZG. Few interactions with Holy Radiance/Guardian of ancient kings. Running Lazy raider and controlling movement myself.
       
    12. sm0k3d

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      Ok sweet. The latest one cleanses the bad stuff and keeps the good right?
       
    13. Crowley

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      I have been playing around with using GoAK when in boss fights.
      Only problem i can't figure out when to fire it off. Like General Umbriss in Grim Batol, if you use it at start of fight it kind of gets wasted.
      Could put a boss HP check in but not sure. I totally bastardised SimpleCC to get it to work in here...sorta :) Guessing theres no way to tell what Phase a boss is in?
       
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    14. zarlia28

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      Very nice CC, No major issues. Full clear ZA/ZG with this il359. I will give it ago for a 10man heroic this arvo and let you no how it goes.
       
    15. nihon

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      Thats a path i like, i only use it with Lazy or IB no movement myself :) . On the GoAK and HR issue i personally like to control those myself (at least GoAK) its nice to a have a o shit button you control yourself for when things starts to really hit the fan. I guess a user that prefer to run it AFK have a different opinion thou. Anyhow great job as always :)
       
    16. sm0k3d

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      yea thats how ive been using it as a personal o shit button. in the future when theres a GUI ill put an option where u can use it or not
       
    17. Zoinx

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      Yea, I guess having the user use GoAK and HR is best for raids. Going to be testing the 1.46_raider for the next 4-5 hours. in 1.46, did you remove the Inquisition thing?

      Queuing right now for ZG and will tell you if the dispels are fixed.
       
    18. sm0k3d

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      Yea I did
       
    19. Zoinx

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      Been running it all day, and it works great. Still doing that beacon thing, and another problem I say was Tank and DPS getting into combat and the CC spamming:
      I stand right next to them, talking 10-15 yards in game and it still says it. When it spams that I have to Judgement the target or do a Holy Shock to get me in combat and then the CC kicks in. I play in window mode, so I can see when it shows up. Sometimes I'll be watching TV (why not? the bot does everything!!) and will look back to find the tank at 5% HP and the CC spamming that message.
       
    20. sm0k3d

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      Yea I have that in because the CC won't work unless you have a target/in combat. It has to do with lazy raider because HB doesn't target anything. I'll see if there's something I can do to throw you in combat and get the CC going. And for the beacon thing the text is in this part that checks if the tank needs beacon. The actual casting won't happen until he is in range and stuff
       

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