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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by handnavi, Oct 13, 2012.

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    1. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      It looks like the updating process failed. Can you try a complete new install? :-/
       
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      frniners New Member

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      I did see my edited post above
       
    3. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Mhhh. This is really strange.
      There is really nothing in the log. Just 1 error of Pokebuddy. .
      Do you attack a dummy?
       
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      LiquidAtoR Community Developer

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      I will run a quick rev76 on a dummy to see if it's just him or everyone...

      Edit:
      Code:
      Cat Form 
      Mangle
      Rake 
      Tiger's Fury 
      Faerie Fire
      Lifeblood 
      Berserk 
      Nature's Vigil 
      Rake
      Thrash
      Rake
      Shred
      Rip
      Mangle
      Shred
      Thrash
      Ferocious Bite
      Thrash
      Healing Touch
      Rake 
      Shred
      Tiger's Fury 
      Mangle
      Rip
      Thrash
      Faerie Fire
      Rake 
      Shred
      Rake 
      Thrash
      Ferocious Bite
      Thrash
      Mangle
      Rake
      Tiger's Fury 
      Mangle
      Rake
      Rip
      Shred
      Faerie Fire
      Thrash
      Stopping the bot!
      Bot Stopped! Reason: User pressed the stop button
      [LazyRaider] Version 2.0.11 Stopped 
      
      works fine, 70K on a Dummy with ilvl 488
       
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    5. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Thanks! :D
      Atleast for me it has worked some hours ago
       
    6. LiquidAtoR

      LiquidAtoR Community Developer

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      Works fine (see former post, I added the combat routines it performed on a raiding boss dummy).

      Just make sure you delete the content of the CompiledAssemblies folder under your HB installation to make sure it makes a fresh compilation of the CC (and everything else you might've updated over time).
      I've noticed that deleting that stuff makes alot of issues go away (together with the Cache content if you use questing).
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Liquid, can you please replace natures vigil with doc? My eyes are hurting from this talent choice. :D
       
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      I cleared the compiledAssemblies and the cache and still same thing so I did View attachment 5344 2013-03-27 15.49.txt a whole new install of HB and Superbad and it seems to be working fine tehn it just stops doing anything and goes back to white damage only...frustrating
       
    9. LiquidAtoR

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      I don't see DoC being a DPS increase.
      Nature's Vigil is at least a tool for a raid or group to get healing while I damage.
      DoC only increases my own heals (unless I'm not understanding the talents in the last tier).

      Edit: After reading a bit I can see why I picked NV over DoC. DoC is for quick people :) I'm too old to be quick, so I took NV, hehe :p

      All I see in the attached logfile is that you started the latest version of HB?
       
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      Any reason the CC isn't using Ferocious Bite at 25% and less on a boss fight? :/
       
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      Mkay. The Savage Roar thingie seems to have been fixed. Pulling 95k+ on target dummy while in cat, everything goes smoothly while tanking, but...

      WHY THE F* DOES IT CAST HEALING TOUCH IN RAIDS?

      [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 5221, KnownIndex: 72
      Shred
      [CGSpellBook::CastSpell] Override ID: 5185, KnownIndex: 47
      Healing Touch

      I have "Use procs to heal group members" turned off.

      And one more thing - it keeps saying "Walking manually, turn off movement!" while I have that turned off...

      Going to try deleting the settings file and see if that "fixes" it.

      edit: didn't fix shit :( I'm seriously trying to understand why it performs so badly in LFR. I do less than 70k dps on some fights in LFR fully buffed, and I do so much more on the dummy - unbuffed.
       
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    12. handnavi

      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Are you dream of cenarius specced? :/
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      It should do so. :eek:
       
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      I presume you know your class, right? Because the way you reacted it seems you don't know how the procs for your class and picked talents work.

      Assuming you have Dream of Cenarius (because it casts healing touch even though you deselected it)...
      Every time you get a Predatory Swiftness proc, cast an instant free Healing Touch on yourself or one of your party members and you get a damage bonus to you next two melee attacks.

      SO OFCOURSE IT F*CKING CASTS HEALING TOUCH WHILE IN THE RAID, YOU DON'T WANT TO GIMP YOUR DPS DUE TO NOT MAKING USE OF THE DREAM OF CENARIUS PROC, NOW DO YOU?

      And does it actually move while in the raid, or do you have to move yourself? Might be positioning (not behind the boss) or misses (I don't know how you have reforged yourself) that costs you DPS on bosses.
      I've seen the messages as well when moving while it's disabled, but it doesn't affect the CC, just a message in the logs because it detects movement by the user.
      Maybe that's something Handnavi can look into when the more important things are done.

      And lastly without logs Handnavi (or anyone else that would like to help) can't do shit either (can't see where it goes wrong, can't fix it either).

      Sorry if it seems a bit like a rant or flame, but as said, from you of all people I expected a bit more. You're here longer than just today.
       
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      this explains why we need combat routines & raidbots.
       
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      I, ofcourse, DO NOT have Dream of Cenarious. I use Nature's Vigil. Which is why I can't figure out why the fuck does it cast Healing Touch even when it's disabled.

      I'm not raging for nothing here :p

      And obviously the log doesn't mention anything interesting, which is why I didn't bother posting it, as you can see: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/HB/8848 2013-03-28 05.49.txt
       
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      Lot's of anger here lol.

      I just want a good leveling CC so I can farm with my druid :/

      So for everyone else raging here and for curious people....Can we post a talent map so we KNOW what talents to pick so this will run correctly????


      Kthxbai.
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      Hihihello!

      Just DONT pick Heart of the Wild. Everything else will work just fine. :)
       
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      handnavi Well-Known Member Buddy Store Developer

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      :)

      I rechecked it.
      It must be a dps gain.

      It will only be cast if nothing else can be cast && the cast is instant & nature's vigil is up.
      In this case its better then autoattacking.

       
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      Hello Handnavi,


      Its good to see you back :)
      I havent played my druid for quite some time and i get back to him since guild needed tank, and i enjoy Guardian's.

      Feral part of routine works outstanding, there are few minor issues here and there, mainly with maintaining Rip up, i find older versions better with rip uptime, but its not so big issue, if i see that it will drop, i cast it manually.

      Now, i do have issues with guardian spec.
      In "autoform" settings it does absolutely nothing.. well, not quite nothing, it casts MoW. In dungeons, "Autoform" tries to go in to cat form, even so im specced as guardian.
      In "Manual form" Guardian works far better, i would say quite good, but i did notice that it doesnt use "Maul" at all, instead routine keeps rage pool full for first 10-15s after which it start dumping rage on trash, again not singe one Maul was cast, even when Tooth and Claw buff was up.
      As IcyV, Noxxic and EJ's say, guardian should use Maul ONLY when:

      you are under the effect of a Tooth and Claw proc;
      you are at or very close to maximum Rage;
      you do not need to use your active mitigation.

      I had Tooth and Claw was up, my rage was capped and i didnt had need for active mitigation as i was smacking target dummy silly. Yet not single Maul was given that day. :)

      Log attached:
      1st start of bot was with "AutoForm" settings, and i left it in combat for 50-70s waiting anything to be cast - nothing.
      2nd start was with Lazyrider and Manual form settings,
      3rd start was with Tyrael and Manual form settings.

      As you can see, in both cases not single one maul was casted.

      in clean install used:

      HB .555
      Lazyrider/Tyrael,
      Superbad rev76
       

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