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  • Today, 10th July, court hearing Blizzard Inc. vs Bossland GmbH / Demonbuddy

    Discussion in 'Legal' started by bossland, Jul 10, 2012.

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    1. MulinexMan

      MulinexMan Member

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      Das Problem ist doch folgendes:
      W?re der Einspruch durchgegangen und sie d?rften DB auch wieder in Deutschland anbieten, dann h?tten sie das schon l?ngst getan. Da wir ?berhaupt nichts h?ren (im Gegensatz zu vorher, wo es immer mal wieder hie? "morgen" oder am Tag XX), braucht sich doch keiner wundern wenn die leute sich Sorgen machen. Ich mein, was kann es denn sein? Mir fallen spontan nur zwei Dinge ein: Der Einspruch ist abgelehnt worden und sie machen sich Sorgen wie sie mit den Massen an deutschen Refund Forderungen umgehen. Oder sie arbeiten an einer au?ergerichtlichen Einigung - ok das w?re schon sehr krass und ich will auch nicht spekulieren, ich sage nur, dass sowas einem dann schon durch den Kopf geht. Deshalb w?re ein Statement ne sch?ne Sache, denn keines erscheint gleich negativ und l?sst einen irgendwie ahnen, dass was schlimmes kommt.
       
    2. das_omen

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      Ich spekuliere ;)

      20 % der Ums?tze je verkaufte Session gehen an Blizzard :D

      </trollmode>
       
    3. shuuk

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      Wir haben doch deutsche Mods hier, evtl. kann von denen mal einer was sagen oder mal bei Bossland nachfragen wie der Stand der Dinge ist.
       
    4. bossland

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      Update:

      EN:The court decided in favor of Blizzard and the injunction for Germany stays. In few days/week we should have the ruling, then we will appeal.

      DE: Die einstweilige Verf?gung bleibt bestehen, sobald wir die Begr?ndung des Urteils haben, werden wir in die Berufung gehen.
       
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      ohh noo :(
       
    6. shuuk

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      Danke f?r die Info :)
       
    7. germanbuddy

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      god save the queen...
      ich dachte schon bossy das du und blizzards schl?gertrupp stillschweigen eine d?stere ?bereinkunft getroffen habt...
       
    8. Impala

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      I'd love to know why
       
    9. Hawker

      Hawker Well-Known Member Buddy Core Dev

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      So would we. Its very frustrating that we have to wait about but that's the nature of litigation.
       
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      back to my supplier and rebuy a tool ;) :p
       
    11. stevenr

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      Hm und das wurde ?ber das WE entschieden?
      Leute, wir sind uns schon in klaren dar?ber, dass die Chancen geben Blizz zu bestehen nicht die besten sind. Wir sind dabei geblieben, weil wir DEINEN Mut bewundern es zu versuchen. Sag uns doch einfach was gerade Fakt ist - wir (ich) bleibe(n) trotzdem ;)
       
    12. velonici

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      What can i do about either getting a refund or converting my DB key to a single WOW key? I've never been able to use to bot and honestly got tired of Diablo pretty quickly so most likely wont be playing it anyway.
       
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      Hey so Bossland, are those outside of Germany safe to use this bot after the ruling? E.g. does this change anything for those outside of Germany
       
    14. crack00r

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      Das Problem ist, und das ist bekannt... der fliegende Gerichtsstand... und jeder der irgendwas mit Urheberrechte, Patent oder sonst was hat, geht pauschal erstmal nach Hamburg... und am dortigen Landgericht hat noch NIEE die kleine Partei gewonnen... Sehr oft wurden dann aber in h?heren Instanzen die Urteile wieder aufgehoben... Also mit einer Niederlage am hamburger Landgericht, ist noch nichts entschieden...
       
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      interesting precedent, didn't expect them to rule in blizzs favour i bet you guys are more then annoyed at this little setback. do you have concerns they are going to come after you for international sales now as well?
       
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      Okay with this it means bot stay's unusable for German customers. Does that mean we're still entitled to get a refund? This is a legitimate question so no flames please. But after having brought the bot right after release I've not used it once so far due to the injunction and paying for something I wont be able to use for a long time it seems is not all that appealing to me.
       
    17. achiko

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      /signed!
       
    18. hamburger

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      Anstatt um eure Geld zu heulen wartet lieber bis die Sache durch ist. Ein Prozess ist nicht Geschenkt! Au?erdem ist so etwas sehr unmotivierend!!!
       
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      guys that means you have to pay money to blizzard?
       
    20. 1101011

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      that means bossland isn't allowed to sell the bot to any german customers or let any german customer use the bot.
      The main hearing is something complete different to this court hearing.

      It means nothing more and nothing less


      Maybe the bossland company wins the main hearing or maybe they win the revision
       
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