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    Discussion in 'Archives' started by tuanha, Dec 24, 2012.

    1. xifter

      xifter New Member

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      new update is xifter approved. great job tuanha!
       
    2. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      What spec have you approved xifter? Blood/Frost/Unholy? That for PvE/PvP/Arena/RBG?

      I just have a 14-1 with a random Monk running Unholy + Mistweaver, he g2g but he said I'm good lol.

      The only time we lose is a 1850 team Priest Hunter that CC the monk for 20 seconds and killed me. It was also my bad should have sit on that priest the whole fight to stop Mind Control and Fear :D
       
    3. UFCFreak89

      UFCFreak89 Banned

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      Unholy takes over Frost 2H only at extremely high ilvl, up until ~522ilvl Frost 2h is still superior.

      Edit: The link below shows how spec's currently scale at certain gear levels - i suggest you check it out.

      WoW DPS Rankings (Maximum) in Patch 5.2 (MoP)
       
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    4. xifter

      xifter New Member

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      played unholy with shaman went 13-1... lost to mirror with frost dk who globaled my shaman say be was pressing wrong key.

      Found bug but no log sry - even with auto desecrated ground unchecked, it still uses it... Any fix for this? I had to spec out of it because it was waste of talent.

      I am glad you are liking Reflex and my suggestions to pvp rotation :)
       
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    5. UFCFreak89

      UFCFreak89 Banned

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      Okay just to prove my point, i went and got simcraft results from various sites and ranked all the DK specs (and a # rank compared to all class/specs)

      Code:
      iLvl: 468
      Frost 2h: 81,191 DPS (1)
      Frost DW: 78,166 DPS (3)
      Unholy: 75,497 DPS (6)
      
      iLvl: 483
      Frost 2H: 96,162 DPS (4)
      Frost DW: 93,549 DPS (6)
      Unholy: 89,659 DPS (12)
      
      iLvl: 496
      Frost 2H: 109,230 DPS (3)
      Frost DW: 106,015 DPS (7)
      Unholy: 102,183 DPS (13)
      
      iLvl: 502
      Frost 2H: 120,619 DPS (5)
      Frost DW: 114,593 DPS (18)
      Unholy: 120,065 DPS (6)
      
      iLvl: 522
      Frost 2H: 150,017 DPS (9)
      Frost DW: 142,472 DPS (23)
      Unholy: 146,111 DPS (19)
      
      iLvl: BiS Gear
      Frost 2H: 200,881 DPS (20)
      Frost DW: 190,021 DPS (26)
      Unholy: 200,811 (21)
      As you can see at ALL gear levels currently Frost 2H is leading with unholy catching up at EXTREMELY high ilvl
       
    6. imdasandman

      imdasandman Active Member

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      Sims might say one thing world of logs (which is real time data) says that around 520 ilvl unholy pulls ahead. This is mostly due to how well festerbloght is behaving right now.

      Another sight which proves my point is epeenbot
       
    7. UFCFreak89

      UFCFreak89 Banned

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      In both scenarios then at 522ilvl Frost 2h and Unholy are very similar.

      You need to note the % of people who bot with this class that currently have that quality of gear is likely in the <5 percentile
       
    8. imdasandman

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      Well i am one of them. Sadly i still do not use hb for my pve raiding play. It is just to slow. This cr is 12k below, pure is 7k below than tge rotations i use with pqr. This cr kicks ass in pvp though. My results are from playing 2H frost. Once you goto unholy it is absurd how big the dps gap is between pqr and hb. A good botter will use any tool available to them.
       
    9. macVsog

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      Which PQR profile are you using? I tried Rubim, Leetjerks and Weys and getting around the same DPS in PVE as TuanHA's.
       
    10. imdasandman

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      Edited rubims for unholy festerblight and soapbox for 2h frost.

      Frost last night i did 400k dps on tortos hm and on nm megerra i did 146k also as frost

      I am at 521 ilvl with only 8k haste so at this point in time festerblight and 2H frost yield the same results.

      Edit: sorry tuan for for derailing your thread. Was just trying to debunk the whole 2H frost is better when at bis levels it isnt.
       
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      is there a DK UH pqr rotation optimized for arena or pvp ?
       
    12. zapper

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      i thought of trying pqr but it seemed like your doubling your chance for detection.
       
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    13. macVsog

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      I'm not trying to hijack this thread either but I just wanted to share my experiences with users using other CR's performance versus TuanHA's, and at this point I'm not seeing much of a difference in anything unless I'm missing something. Like you I try everything to see what helps the most in performance but so far I've been happy with TuanHA's performance.

      I purchased Soapbox's last night and I'm not seeing hardly any disparity between TuanHA's and Rubims but I noticed around a 15K+ dps decrease using Soapbox Ultimate Raiding Frost DK profile that cost $20. You must have edited a lot of the code to do 12k more dps. I'm ilvl 541 with all BiS Heroic and Heroic Thunderforge gear except for a few pieces. Would you mind sharing the profile or your profile changes?

      Thanks
       
    14. imdasandman

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      Not really. I am going to try to optimize one but it will take awhile.
       
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      I have not made any changes to soapbox profiles. I just control my own cds and such. Maybe tuans has great performance in your raid make up bit maybe not so much in mine. Who knows, to many variables.
       
    16. imdasandman

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      No one has ever been banned using pqr. All it does is handle your rotation. It is not a "bot" so it is relatively safe.

      @tuan for pvp side of your rotation i never see it cast the talent asphyixcate(spelling) this can be used to apply tons of pressure or used yo save yourself or your teammates ass. Esp when using the strangulate glyph with it.
       
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    17. Xcesius

      Xcesius Community Developer

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      Just wait until Blizzard upgrades warden to detect read-only programs too, it's fairly easy to detect a program that reads certain memory locations.
       
    18. exdeus

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      no it's very difficult cause it's only reading....
       
    19. exdeus

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      tks for your work here and on other places ^^
       
    20. tuanha

      tuanha Well-Known Member

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      It cast a lot for me. If you just change talent, make sure restart HB so CR can recognize that spell and use it.
       

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