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    1. fragnot

      fragnot Member

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      I got the paid version of this routine, and im not totally satisfied. I want it to perform better, so im gonna ask a few questions and i hope you can shred some light :)

      What botbase do you use for this ? Tyrael/Lazyraider etc ?

      Have you experienced, despite theres only 1 target, that it uses Divine Storm more than Crusader Strike ? (Which obviously should do more dmg on single targets) ?
       
      fragnot, Jul 7, 2013
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    2. megaman

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      i use it with both tyrael and lazyraider and it works well
       
      megaman, Jul 7, 2013
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      Mastah?. i have sent you a pm. i have lost my paid version of this routine and my hotmail is closed. so i need you to send it to a my new one.
       
      ghost666, Jul 11, 2013
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    4. mastahg

      mastahg Administrator Staff Member

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      Your english makes me cringe, and your tone aggravates me.

      1)Belts will likely not be implemented, use rocket boots for speed since if it backfires you can dp or wog your self.
      2)If your afk pvping just use a regular trinket, the stats on it alone make it worth using.
      3)If yout not afk pvping, then you should be in control of the things that are extremely situational like trinkets.
       
      mastahg, Jul 11, 2013
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    5. mastahg

      mastahg Administrator Staff Member

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      Sorry, I have been extremely busy past few days.
       
      mastahg, Jul 11, 2013
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    6. megaman

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      Lol sorry for my english =P

      You did not mention the racials (every man for himself), i use to play all the time AFK into BG, so SMART blast of trinkets
      certainly would be useful....

      Why cant you just implement it ? lol

      Thanks and sorry for my english making you "cringe" (i searched google translate to discovery what it means lol)
       
      megaman, Jul 12, 2013
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    7. fragnot

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      Yo Mastah.

      Have you experienced this :


      2.5.6948.557 is the wanted version of HB
      2.5.7350.638 is the current version of HB

      ?
       
      fragnot, Jul 14, 2013
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    8. mastahg

      mastahg Administrator Staff Member

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      Thats fine.
       
      mastahg, Jul 14, 2013
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    9. fragnot

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      Request :

      Can you implement some kind of hotkey for dps cooldowns? I mean, 1 hotkey for the 3-4 dps cooldowns we got ?


      For example : In arena, my partner and i gets a target to around 50-60% - i would like to press this hotkey, so the bot executes Avenging Wrath, Guardian of Ancient Kings, Execution Sentence etc.


      That would totally rock my pants off!
       
      fragnot, Jul 14, 2013
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    10. Myra

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      Guess what, You can rock Your pants yourself! Just make a simple one-click-macro:

      Triggering the Burst Yourself lets You decide when the situation ist best. NOT depending on a % situation is always more viable than stick to a given set of parameters. The CR perfectly does Your rotation, let it do that, but decide for yourself, WHEN EXACTLY you want to pop Your CD in an Arena situation.
       
      Myra, Jul 14, 2013
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    11. Tryst

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      Paid version has this.
       
      Tryst, Jul 14, 2013
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    12. megaman

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      No, it doesnt, im using the paid version.
       
      megaman, Jul 15, 2013
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    13. megaman

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      im using tuanhas and it has all support that is missing on this one... and tuanha also does not care about my English fluency when i ask questions...
       
      megaman, Jul 19, 2013
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      Tuanhas is a good CC - and its built with everything possible in mind. That being said I still prefer Vanguard. With Tyreal this thing just plows over everyone vs. Tuanhas I was roughly 30% less dps and felt sluggish to respond.

      It's all a matter of opinion and speed of computer - if your running a $500 walmart special then yes its going to be weak. But, if you run a home built beast machine it responds so much more quickly and is much more effective.
       
      akassaw, Jul 19, 2013
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    15. theatristformallyknownasG

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      I have both paid versions now, I'll give it a run this weekend hopefully and compare them both.

      G
       
      theatristformallyknownasG, Jul 19, 2013
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    16. theatristformallyknownasG

      theatristformallyknownasG Active Member

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      Tried a couple of raids on the weekend with Tuanha's, the current state of HB who knows if this is accurate though, i know where I end up using Vanguard from previous runs. Tuanha's was ranking me 5-7 in dps, Vanguard I am regularly 1-2. Where Vanguard comes into it's own is the static fight where you just dps away, nothing touches it. When some movement is involved as the boss moves around I get beaten by the odd mage and warrior, buts thats about it, I just choose raidbot and control all movement by hand, same when I do scenarios.

      Not sure about tanking or heals on Tuanha's, but since I can't play either spec I will be using it for them :), for now Vanguard is the best ret .cc out there by a mile.

      Would be nice to pick kings or might and keep it up, also make sure the a food buff is always up, and ofcourse a flask before starting a raid or scenario. Sometimes us oldies for get these and have to stop halfway thru before we realise :)

      Mists of Pandaria - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft and is that still the valid talent build for 5.3 ? on wowpopular this one Mists of Pandaria - Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft is by far the favorite, but not sure Vanguard will take advantage of it, some feedback would be great mushtaq.

      G
       
      theatristformallyknownasG, Jul 21, 2013
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    17. Qrets98

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      Can you take off that thing that makes it auto follow mobs it is attacking?
       
      Qrets98, Jul 23, 2013
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    18. blackvibes

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      Ok, so I thought, let's give it a try. Perhaps better than Singular. Well guess what: It's not. Not for me atm.

      I got the lite version and let it attack the Raider training bot for 5 minutes and checking the average DPS for the whole fight.I got it up to an average of 31,7K dps. (And that with 490 ilvl.. .. ). I checked the class config and turned everything on that could improve the DPS.

      I resetted all data, and let it go on Singular, which got 35K dps on an average fight of 5 minutes. So unless I still did something wrong with the config.. I prefer Singular.

      So someone: Please convince me using Vanguard / Tell me what went wrong, since I'm really not convinced at this moment. Oh, and I'm not gonna pay a sick 30 bucks for the full routine.

      Thanks!
       
      blackvibes, Jul 25, 2013
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    19. mastahg

      mastahg Administrator Staff Member

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      Thanks for the review, you'll want to take Sanctifed wrath until the next version which has better support for holy avenger.


      What? Thats something todo with whatever botbase your using.

      The lite routine featured here implements the PVP rotation, so its not surprising that singular does more damage then it. Considering that it got almost as good dps as singular doing the PVP rotation VS singulars PVE rotation shows just how good it is honestly.
       
      mastahg, Jul 25, 2013
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    20. blackvibes

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      And the PVE version of Vanguard is only paid.. Or?
       
      blackvibes, Jul 25, 2013
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